Posts by Half banana

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The Shit Has Just Started Hitting The Fan For The WT Corporation, Nightmare Stage!

by Brokeback Watchtower in

as with any course which is based on pure wishful thinking(which is the wt corporation based on) has different stages.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.

some psychologists believe that positive thinking is able to positively influence behavior and so bring about better results.

this is called "pygmalion effect".

Half banana

I think it could be expected for the organisation to go pear-shaped.

One significant factor must be the present GB are inheritors of a system and mindset which had been built on a timescale based on the 1914 generation. How can they be God's agents on Earth when they always get their predictions wrong? Even doomsday cults need some plausible evidence for their authority. The present incumbents cannot point to anything they have done which would demonstrate divine intervention.

WT style religion is being replaced by a more modern approach which does not require an "organised" hierarchy. A private spirituality without a need for preaching satisfies many today.

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Warwick to finish EARLY

by wifibandit in

ok, story time.. anon asks me via pm:.

just heard from a wallkill bethelite that warwick will finish early.

can you confirm?.

Half banana

Warwick itself could then be sold in a few years time when thousands and thousands have left the organisation.........

"Superb lake-side residential village, ideal retirement community location." They might even get back what they spent!

One excuse will be that Jerhoover has gone electronic and very few buildings are now required when all is computerised or on TV. Who needs books and magazines?

The other excuse will be that Armageddon is imminent...

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5 Steps to be a good cop inside the congregation...

by hardtobeme in

how many of you did this steps to keep the congo clean?.

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Half banana

I guess there is only one way to run a police state...

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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in

by Black Man in

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having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.

like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.

you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.

Half banana

I agree with you BM, invisible spirits, invisible God and invisible events plus never arriving promises...all these and more guaranteed by the Watchtower organisation...what a joke, what a complete waste time and a devastating waste of countless millions of people's lives.

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Half banana

I say this without evidence but perhaps back in the forties, Knorr and those closest to power devised a new company in which to put shares and made themselves shareholders.

Like everyone else who has looked at it there are no clues to the financial backing or security of the org. Is it an agreement with a bank or a private consortium? Whatever it is the governance of the org whichever name it goes under, is hell bent on making and holding on to money...far more than a doomsday cult would ever need if there really were such a thing as Armageddon "practically on our doorstep".

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Half banana

When it comes to matter WTBTS, the word "seemingly" can be extremely misleading.

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Half banana

Saint B, I had read the same info a couple of years ago (probably supplied by Orphan Crow on another site) but there was no mention of the original shareholders and the value of those shares or the realisation of the value or the termination of the earlier shares.

To have it confirmed would at least put it to bed, otherwise a personal financial investment could so easily translate into business-first selfish rewards sought from the WTBTS. It may have been possible to obscure the status of the original shareholders with the promise of "look no more financially interested shareholding" but still leaving the original shareholders to make profits?

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Half banana

Just a thought; when Knorr, the pragmatic stoney faced business mind, began to preside in 1942, no doubt he had legitimate business shares in the WTBTS. Even in photos from Rutherford's time, Knorr was there with his defensive cane in hand protecting the queen bee JFR. He looked distinctly sycophantic. He wanted to inherit Rutherford's kingdom. It would appear politic or to use JW terminology,"theocratic" for him to abolish the monetary shares in the society in 1945 but would it not be in his financial and power interests to honour the original investments?

Ok, I am cynical of the intent of the WT leadership but it would be in keeping or would it not?

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Half banana

I should like to ask: does anyone have any idea of what happened to the stock value of the WTBTS before the cut off date in the forties and does it still continue among the inheritors of the original stock holders ...or was it realised at that time and henceforth abolished? This does require an answer.

If it continues, it would explain the need for commercial success irrespective of the requirement for simply being prudent and solvent.

Thanks Saint B, perhaps others might have some idea of what happened in the 1940s.

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Half banana

This could be most interesting if true . I knew of the "shareholding" voters but wasn't aware of their financial stake in the business success of the Watchtower org. I felt I was led to understand they were non-profit shareholders. (Was there ever such a thing?) This would be a different kettle of fish!

This makes the monetary incentive to keep the WTBTS literally businesslike an absolute requirement. It entirely validates the criticism that I amongst others have made, that their doctrines are primarily commercial decisions. Damn the belieifs and forget religious scruples...what really counts is the value of the shares!

I understand (but would welcome correction) that the shareholders are "company men", that is those whose loyalty to the org is unquestioned. Your information would make the revision in my thinking that company men have also to be well heeled and able to afford the latest in expensive wrist watches as well, even if they were special pioneers or gb members.

James Jack, could there be stock invested from before the 1944/5 cut off point?

Please reveal sources.